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luvmyracker
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Posted: Wed Dec 26th, 2007 06:14 pm |
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| I am currently trying a MFT out for a few weeks before I decide if I would like to purchase her. I had an ICB so I decided to try it on her. I've only ridden her once in it but she seemed to like it. I use to use it on a Racking horse I own but he is currently lame and unable to ride. My question is, can I do a one rein stop using the ICB? I follow Clinton Anderson's techniques and he does a lot of flexing from side to side and one rein stops. I wouldn't be doing all of that flexing with this mare but would like to know I could practice the one rein stop on her just in case I need it in an emergency.
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Dixie
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Posted: Wed Dec 26th, 2007 06:26 pm |
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Yep. I use CA's methods on all my horses, and wouldn't have any other bit except the ICB or the Imus training bit. THey both work well with a one rein stop, and with all the flexing.
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lisa-n-cricket
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 05:52 am |
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THEY"RE ALL LYING!!! that stinky one rein stop does not work!!! When your horse is GALLOPING Away and BUCKING and you are pulling on one rein all your horse does is bend in half and keep right on a trucking while you just hang on for DEAR LIFE (If the ground didn't look so blasted hard I WOULD'VE fallen off!!)
AND you cannot disengage the hind quarters when your arms are wrapped around your horses neck (oh,,hmmmmm maybe I can choke her to a stop ), and one leg under the horses belly and the other on top of the saddle. Nope doesn't work- not if your horse is REALLY running away! 
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Dixie
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 11:09 am |
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Lisa, you're supposed to do the one-rein stop BEFORE your horse gets to that point
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 11:25 am |
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I was always told that a horse cannot gallop with his nose cranked to his butt....Well, I'm here to tell ya that he CAN!!! And do it full out, going diagonal and for distance Of course, that was pre-ICB (maybe he was telling me something). The one rein stop now is a piece of cake.
Gee, Lisa, were we riding the same horse?
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lisa-n-cricket
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Posted: Thu Dec 27th, 2007 12:59 pm |
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YES YES Linsey!! Phew, I'm glad I'm not the only one!!!
BTW...I've changed my horse's name to Cybil 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 01:42 am |
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 OH MY!
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ladybug
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 05:16 pm |
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Lisa,
Been there done that!!!  scarey scarey!!
Someone just told me the same thing last week, That you have to get it done quick before they get into the full blow gallop. As soon as they start to take off. Of course when these things happen, I never seem to be cordinated enough to get it all together, I tend to let my survival instinct kick in, and hang on for dear life. But I will try to do it sooner if my horse ever takes off on me again, and I have time to grab the one rein.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 09:51 pm |
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Here's one explanation of the pulley rein stop:
The pulley rein is executed by shortening one rein as tight as you can and pushing your knuckles into the horse's neck, with your hand braced and centered over its neck (it is important that this hand is pressed into the neck and not floating free). Then you slide your other hand down the other rein as far forward as you can and pull straight back and up with all your weight. Since the first rein is locked and braced, it is preventing your horse's head from turning, so the pull on the second rein creates a lot of pressure. If the pulley rein is executed correctly, you can stop a runaway horse on its nose. This is far preferable to pulling the out-of-control horse into a circle, since that may cause him to lose his footing and fall down. This technique requires some practice and the practice can be very hard on your horse, so many instructors do not like to teach this emergency stopping technique. However, when you are out of control, it is a great tool to have in your bag of tricks and it can be very useful for slowing down a strong horse, with a little pulley action every few strides then a release (use it with your half-halt).
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theoldbear
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 02:05 am |
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I've done that one rein stop where the horse is a cold-jawed runaway. Took him all the way to the ground, but didn't break either his neck or mine. That was fifty years ago, and I was eleven years old. I've never done it again.
The Clinton Anderson/Pat Parelli one rein stop as I understand it won't do I thing for that horse that is paniced, or just running away.
I prefer to saw on the bit, turn a little bit one way, then a little bit the other to break the horse's stride, and then crank his nose around to my boot toe.
I don't do the spur stop, that some western trainers use, but when I'm stopping a run away, I use my heel on the outside shoulder and my leg behind the girth on the inside to bend the horse into the turn. That also sets me up so that if I have to bail out, I'm leaning in the right direction (LOL)!
I'm too old! I promise my wife and my orthoepdic surgeon not to do this stuff any more!
I ride western style, on a loose rein. My horses have soft mouths. But my bits are all 8 inch shanks.
My car and truck came with emergency brakes. I've never had to use them. A bit with a lot of whoa is my equine emergency brake. And again, I've never had to use them.
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whattarack
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 03:15 am |
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Great thread. Don't forget to keep those reins in good shape. Hubby's broke when trying to stop a running horse. Sent him off. His ribs broke, too. 
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JoyRider
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 04:49 pm |
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| Yes I remember having this discussion several months ago about the difference in the one rein circling stop and the one rein non circling stop. I can imagine myself writing all this on my hand instead of trying to review it in my head while galloping full speed ahead.
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ChampagneTobe
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 04:54 pm |
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My first bad wreck was when I was on a runaway and he took a hard right turn at the exact moment my left foot came out of the stirrup. Off I went into a gravel shoulder like a runner into home base. OUCH Thankfully, just some bruises and scratches.
Let me tell you that I've taught the pulley and used the pulley. Unfortunately, this horse laughed at the pulley. My trainer boss said - well, you shouldn't have gotten in that position in the first place. Well how about when you're happily cantering and THAT turns into a runaway? I used that pulley rein technique on horse going slower who wouldn't stop, and the bending/hindquarter technique (again at a slower pace), but the only thing I've used when travelling at the speed of light is what my trainer called the half halt. There are so many definitions of a half halt, so let me explain. Works like a charm, BUT the kicker is that you can't over use it or the horse gets wise to it. YOu can only use it sparingly to be effective. YOu really need to practice it at a stop, and then at a walk to get good at it, and then save it until you need it. A horse's skull, when pulled back can sort of "lock" into place. A horse who hasn't learned to anticipate this move CANNOT continue forward in this position. You start with your hands about chest level and (practice without the reins first) roll your fingers backwards (from pinky to pointer) towards you. Like your going to draw him backwards- that's exactly what happens. When you roll the reins in a backwards circle towards you, it will bring his head back and lock it into the joint. You'll feel it when it gets there. If you do this when you're just sitting in the saddle, he will begin to back up after his head gets into position. If you do it when he's walking, he'll stop. if you continue to do it, he'll begin to back.. The point is to release though when you get the stop. Again, overuse will cause this move to be anticipated and it won't work again.
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Chalisette
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 05:32 pm |
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I've taught my horses to do one rein stops, it's a cue to drop their heads to the ground, and slightly off to the side, gets them out of the mind set of running for one thing. I understand a panic horse is hard to conrol/figure. Out of couriousity did you figure out what set your horse off into a panic to begin with? Non of this stuff is ever fun.
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 08:03 pm |
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I was in a small group ride, with other women who really like to take it slow, some have back problems and stuff. well, 2 new with us, said do you all mind if we canter ahead a bit, we thought sure that should be ok, then both of them took off in a full out gallops, I mean from walk to gallop, that quick. and hauled butt so far a head of us, that the rest of our horses panicked and took off, flight instinct!! the two women in front never knew what we were going thru in the back, so they just kept on going as fasrt as they could, while our horses were desperatly trying to catch up, thinking something God awefull most be after us all and going to kill them for sure, for those two horses a head to be flying off like that.!! I almost came out of that saddle 3 or 4 times, I was holding on for dear life. 
We explained to those 2 women later that, Uh, that was not cantering. They thought it was all so funny!!
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GypsySusan
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 09:38 pm |
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ladybug wrote: We explained to those 2 women later that, Uh, that was not cantering. They thought it was all so funny!!
Ban them for life from riding with your group every again. How rude - actually beyond rude - criminal! Sorry LB that you had to experience this unnecessary "thrill of a lifetime." These kind of thrills only cause heart attacks. Sheesh!
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Chalisette
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Posted: Sun Dec 30th, 2007 08:33 pm |
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I agree how rude, some people don't realize what their actions do, we had an idiot rider in our group for awhile, and I use that lightly. Before his yeehawin' days came to an end when he broke his leg and hip trying to be mister cool. He put some newbies in a dangerous situation by hiding in a field around a bend waiting for them to come with their horse he was gonna scare them. Thank God I got wind of this and was able to stop it before it happened. Poor people their first trail ride ever and it could of been their worse, he no longer rides with us.
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LezleJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 02:55 pm |
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| I so enjoyed you post...little did I know when I was laughing and telling my cousin about it last night that I would have to use this very stop that very night! We were riding around the farm last night and while traveling down a dirt path, across the fence, out of the woods came a small pony out of nowhere. My girl Sadie lost it and spooked wildly, spooking the horse behind her and scaring the pony into flight. This of course just convinced Sadie that there was a monster on all of our heels. I IMEDIATELY put her into a spin with the one rein stop and we spun like a dervish about three times before she stopped to stand quivering while we both regained our composure. Not alot of fun but better than full scale flight mode! Boy I can't wait for her to season some so we can both relax a bit. Oddly enough, she is great on trails off property but on farm I can count on a couple of scares a ride...Does anbody know why this would be? I would think a horse would be more calm and assured at home...not so.
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luv2ride
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 01:30 am |
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I had the same question as I am doing alot of flexion with the bit without the shanks though. The shanks seem to get in the way however. My mare is fighting the flexion by trying to bite my leg.
Glad I see that other riders are using it while trying to flex. Thanks for the information.
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 03:21 pm |
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I've had the Imus bit for 3 yrs, actually bought 2 for my friends as gifts. I kept 2.
I've had to do the one reign stop with Laddie lots of times. One was when another horse took off. You have to really be on top of things and react before they get going but it's always worked for me. Another time was when he got nervous and decided to get the blank away from there, when he started moving his feet, that's when i shut him down, and got off of him. I always get off after the one rein stop and let him come back down to earth. I hate trains
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