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Ann G.O.G Community Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 02:27 pm |
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Brenda, instead of hanging this bit in tack room due to seperation, look what Leo did for me. He braised the roller with brass making it a solid mouthpiece. Did this change the mechanics of the bit or will it work the same as before he braised it together? Used it on Laddie yesterday and he worked great. Gaited, slow loped, stopped..can't tell to much difference than before. He was so relaxed.
Edited to add: Just the roller ball is all that was braised together, he just filled in where the bit was seperated, nothing else. Laddie doesn't seem to mind the little ball not rolling now.
Last edited on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 03:52 pm by Ann
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss

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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 06:42 pm |
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Hi Ann,
I deleted my original response, as I realized you had inadvertently - and innocently - pushed a 'hot button' with the bit problem. There are a few people online who are going out of their way to make people think that what is truly a non-issue (some 'play' developing in the center of the bit - but not enough to pinch or change the action of the bit) is some sort of major defect. It's not.
We have sold thousands of these bits, and the vast majority of our customers are thrilled with them. As with any popular product, there have been a very few defective products produced - that's to be expected in an imperfect world. When we know that is the case, we rectify the situation asap.
Please return your bit to National Bridle Shop. I'll arrange to have it replaced, if indeed the mouthpiece has become jammed, as seems the case.
Highest regards,
Brenda
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Ann G.O.G Community Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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| Brenda I have bought 4 of these bits, I'm not dis satisfied with the bits. I don't want to ride Laddie with any other bit. I was just wondering how braising the ball still effects the action of the bit. Laddie works fine in it without the roller rolling
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Ann G.O.G Community Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 07:35 pm |
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| By the way, don't know anything about a hot button...did I do that? Hummm, wonder how?
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whattarack Pasture Boss

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Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 03:00 am |
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The mechanics of the bit are changed. It is now obviously a solid mouth and therefore, has lost a feature that will most likely be noticed when direct reining over time. Only you will know if the loss of this action eventually affects your horse or not. You can read PB's article on Bitting Myths (found on the home page). She does mention solid-mouthed bits there.
Whatta
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Ann G.O.G Community Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 11th, 2008 07:40 pm |
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Thanks Whatta
Brenda, I already ordered another of the ICB bits from NB. Thank you anyway for offering.
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Gaited Dreams G.O.G Community Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 17th, 2008 03:02 pm |
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| I have been gone from the site for awhile. I have heard of some issues with the ICB and that some become loose at the roller. Can anyone bring me up to speed on this subject? I have had 4 ICBs with no problems.
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slipslider G.O.G Community Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 02:18 pm |
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| Can't help you there. I have only had mine a few months, but no problems so far. I have read that as well and sounds like a pretty easy fix, if it has not been improved upon already.
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss

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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 02:12 pm |
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The so-called 'problems' with the bit are greatly exaggerated, to put it mildly. There is a concerted effort on the part of a few dedicated souls to discredit my products. One person claimed to own four of my saddles and several bits. . .to have had all sorts of problems with the products, and with GOG customer service. So a friend of mine PM'd her from that board to get her contact info, and passed it on to me.
The woman's name was not in our order system, anywhere. I called her to ask if she had ordered under a different name. . .and asked what her problems were, specifically. If there had been real issues I needed to know about them. Well, the woman denied making the public accusations, and then hung up on me, obviously very flustered. I have no idea what her motivation was/is. . .but those kinds of unsubstantiated charges, made public to hundreds of people on the internet, can really have an effect. I hate to think how many horses who NEED my products won't get them, simply because of people like this. It's dreadful.
As for the bits separating in the middle, this does happen to a slight degree with some bits. Any tool with moveable parts, that is used as often as this bit is, will eventually show some signs of 'wear and tear.' However, the separation is not enough to cause pinching, or to change the effect of the bit's action. When all these rumors started on the other MB, people were returning their 'defective' bits. We got dozens of them back before realizing that we couldn't be taking back perfectly usable products and replacing them with new ones, if we hoped to stay in business. Most of the bits we got back are now on bridles, and being used.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - especially when it comes from a competitive source that is noted for flaming and negativity.
PB 
____________________ You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious, nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
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